O M G … I love how its always the woman that gets the penalty. So what happens to the father?…if a guy impregnantes a female while he is on the Dole does his Dole get cut also?

I disagree with Gary Johns,but he’s on the right track just wrong words. Both Men & Woman should be smart enough to use common sense! If you cannot afford to have children it’s simple don’t have them. Both men and woman should use protection if you can’t use pill or others due to complications or negative side affects etc there are many other ways of protecting yourselves that goes for men to. There have been a rise in welfare due to having unwanted kids or just lazy as for the ones who have actual excuses fair enough but to the ones who don’t stop being a dole bludge! Think of the ones who have to go to work whilst being pregnant and paying tax to the people who just don’t want to! Common sense we are adults here be prepared before or making or doing anything there is no such thing as it was in the moment!

As long as men need to meet the same criteria.

mr,garry johns has gone on my list of men who i pesonally think should have be born deformed enough that they could have no trouble becoming pregnant and giving birth,raising a child on the pittance they call a pension,and being single because some CAD wouldn’t face up to his responsibilities,or perchance it was a mistake that they couldn’t destroy,and after he has walked in those shoes,i wonder if his response would be the same,he of course cannot respond to that as the oppertunity will not arise in his lifetime and anybody can say with conviction when they know this challenge won’t apply to them”oh course i would”,but talk about something you at least can apply to yourself and make a reliable comment about instead of the dipstick that told you to take that stance,have a nice day mr garry johns.

What the hell? What is wrong with people? Why would ANYone think they had the right to tell someone that unless they’re sterilised, they cannot eat??? How utterly atrocious! Grow up fool, it isn’t the 1850’s anymore, women have rights!

Wow, now I’ve heard everything! What about women that can’t use the pill etc due to nasty side effects. Or for those who have it fail? And what about the men? They can just impregnate who they want if they’re on welfare? Silly. Just one man’s opinion on what women should be doing. What’s the right age for one might not be for another. He should go live his own life and not judge what other people are doing.

hear hear – you want to pop out kids, you bloody pay for them…. I had to! we had one car, lived frugally and got by. I don’t want to pay for spongers!

Sheesh. Where to start with this? Is contraception really just for the woman on benefits as last time I checked it took a man to be involved too – where’s his compulsory contraception? What about those women who medically can’t be on the contraception pill? I’m guessing this “former” federal minister doesn’t have any daughters. Gosh, I hope he doesn’t!

I can see the point with a few comments on here.
What about ladies who have a medical condition and told they can never have children.? I know of 2 who were told that. One pregnancy was classe as high risk with a strong possibility of miscarriage.
She did have a part time job but due to the risks involved with it as well she was told by the Dr. to resign. She plans to get another job later when the baby is older. The Dad doesn’t work and is now on disability benefit and has to take dr. ordered medication so if she claimed support she was advised she would be lucky to get $5.00 a fortnight

To make this work are you going to put a pill in everyones mouth everyday, you do relise no contraception is 100% either.
Have some common sense you cannot control what women do nor should we be told when to have children.

I don’t think that forced contraception is a solution. There must be other ways.

I agree with a lot that mum 71495 has to say.

This 1 of the most STUPID’S THINGS THE GOVERNMENT HAS EVER COME UP WITH

I think he needs to choose his words carefully.

He does have a point but I don’t think his idea is the way to go

The proposal seems extremely harsh as well as impossible to enforce. It also classifies people unfairly – can’t our politicians deal with real issues that actually need addressing?

This is a catch 22 case alright, and not an easy one to solve, but we have to start looking into it deeper to get a balanced view and solution. We can’t police every single young lady to take contraceptive pill, and monitor how they spend the pension. Educate early on is still important to guide our next generation to do the right thing.

I believe he is right to an extent. I know that the job situation is not good especially in rural areas. However, there are girls who willingly allow themselves to get pregnant so that they don’t have to look for work. In doing so, they then receive a baby allowance (if that is still a Government handout) and she is placed on the pension. Meanwhile with various people their partner then lives with them and he is probably on New start as well. So between them they have a substantial amount to live on and not to mention the rental allowance as well and all the other benefits which go to a single parent on a pension.
I know that there are those who are legitimate, like the women whose infidel husbands up and leaves them for another woman and then don’t believe in most cases that they have to pay maintenance for their children, but will happily live with another woman and support her siblings. There are different scenarios. But I agree that the young girl should be studying and focussing on her future, not how many babies she can bring into this world. They don’t remain babies for long, they grow and as they grow they have needs and they get greater as they grow into children and adulthood. They don’t ask to be born, but they need support to live. Save the babies when you’re ready to have them and bring them up in a stable environment with a partner who is committed to them and each other so the children can grow in an environment of love and support. There’s more to life than having babies. Get qualified and set up in an established career and later on settle down and have a family. Governments may not always be around to hand out support. The world owes us nothing. Something has to be done to stop the abuse of the system.

I agree that we need to take a step. It is on all parents to teach their children value and morals of life. If we start the education and Change within our own families, the trend may begin. All of us will have to come together to come over this issue to have better future and facilities for our children. Lets not make it a man vs women, lets fight the fight together.

Yes it is a catch 22 situation. But it is common sense if you are single to be on contraception if you are sexually active. Unless you are unable to use contraception for a health reason.