Talk about a push present! A man has revealed his wife wants him to pay her $50,000 to have their child, as compensation for taking time off from her high-paying job.
The 34-year-old man says he has been dating his ‘wife’ for six years, and while they’re not legally married, he says they’ve been ‘spiritually married’ for the past two years. They are both hefty earners, each bringing in $175,000 a year after tax and split their finances equally.
“We paid for our wedding, honeymoon, everything 50-50, although I did pay for the cost of our rings and her engagement ring,” he explained in a reddit post, which has now been deleted. “Our mortgage payments were 50-50 and we comfortably own our home now, so much of our income goes to savings, investments, home improvements and discretionary spending.”
They both decided to keep their money separate, as they’re both independent and career-driven. “It’s part of the reason I’m so attracted to her,” he says. “She’s amazing at what she does, and I’m so proud to be able to introduce her as my wife and explain what she does.”
While the pair had planned to travel during their first two years of ‘marriage’, the pandemic put a stop to their plans. However, they still managed to save up a tidy sum of money – and have since decided it may be better spent on having children.
“We had a talk and decided it might be a good time to have kids instead of continuously waiting for better or safer travel conditions. Without too serious discussion about it, we decided to stop using birth control and let things happen as they will.”
But things have since taken a turn, after he walked in on his wife having a phone conversation with her sister.
“She seemed like she was in a hurry to end her conversation and tried to evade my question when I asked who she was talking to. They don’t talk a lot, so that was a bit weird. She still works from home, so she continued to do some work, then we had dinner and watched some news. Regular, pleasant evening. Then she says she wants to have a serious talk, and asks me to make us some tea and meet her upstairs at her work desk.
“I make the tea, bring it up, and she starts talking financials. Her work place allows for maternity leave for up to a year, but only provides 50% of her salary for up to 6 months. The remaining six months is unpaid. She was very direct, and said that while her insurance would cover the vast majority of hospital related costs during pregnancy and childbirth, taking a six month break from work would cost her almost $50,000 since her pay would be cut in half. She is asking me to compensate her for that $50,000, in addition to agreeing to split any related but unexpected costs to pregnancy and childbirth.
“Her stance is that she is doing something for us to start a family, but it is not a true 50-50 split if she is expected to take a financial hit for it and I am not, given that our finances are separate. She had a printed list of expectations in terms of what she expected financially, listed some things that her insurance may not cover.”
Wife drafts up ‘loss of income’ plans
While understanding his wife’s logic, the man says he’s been turned off by the entire conversation – because his wife is essentially asking him to pay her for having their child.
“She saw my hesitation and just doubled down. While her ideal is to return to work after six months, she says it’s a real possibility that she may require more time off and decide, as things happen, to take up to a year off. So, she had another plan drafted for that.
“For the first six months, her work will give her 50% of her salary, and I would compensate her for the rest, but for the next six months, since her work would not compensate her, and because this loss is something she is doing for the family, she is ‘comfortable splitting the loss of her income’, and only asking me for 50% of her salary instead of 100% for the second 6 month period, and she will take the loss of 50% of her salary. The idea I guess is that both of us ‘suffer’ half the loss of income for the second six month period. However, if she takes seven to 11 months off, any months after the sixth can be prorated.
“She expressed that she anticipates and hopes to return to work in six months, but that she wants a contingency plan in the event that she requires a year off. She said that taking more than a year off is something she is very unlikely to do as it would put her job at risk, but that she’s open to exploring a third plan with me if I feel that it’s necessary.
“There are also detailed notes about how she wants to keep housework split, with plans to start saving for both childcare and additional housekeeper expenses for at least the first four years. I kid you not, it’s a 16 page ring binder that she handed me with detailed notes, some explanations, and lists of expenses.
“But the immediate and essential element here is that, she wants me to pay her $50,000 – $100,000 to compensate for the loss of her salary for 6-12 months as a result of her having our child.
“I really do not know how to process this. My first thought is shock, because, despite our salaries, $50k-$100k is a lot to demand. The idea of a payment plan to have a child is just gross. And many couples manage to do this without paying their wives to have children. But then, I suppose most couples are married legally and a loss to one person’s income is a loss to everyone. So in our situation, it makes logical sense, but there’s something so transactional about it that puts a bad taste in my mouth.
“I didn’t fight it or argue, and she’s basically allowing me to think about it, but says if having kids is something we’re going to do, she wants to write up an agreement and go to a lawyer (splitting the cost of that is ALSO in the binder).
“What really hits me here is that she was talking to her sister on the same day she brings this up to me. Why on that day? On the same day she mentions this to me? They do not talk often. I am partially excited and scared that the timing of this means that she is actually currently pregnant and that my response to her will have real consequences if I disagree with her. She has previously had an abortion, and only told me after the fact (almost a year later), because it was early into dating. I was shocked to learn that when I did, but supported her choice as it’s her body, and at the time having kids would have been the wrong decision for us. Still, the fact that she makes decisions like that so independently has me incredibly cautious right now.
“I checked trash cans and such for a pregnancy test but didn’t find anything. She also asked for tea instead of coffee, but maybe that is overthinking it because she likes both. I want to ask her if she’s pregnant, but we both had busy days today, and I was processing and it didn’t even occur to me on the day we first discussed this. Definitely a conversation to have, but I don’t know whether that should influence my response here.”
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